GOVERNOR
SCHWARZENEGGER DENIED CLEMENCY TO WILLIAMS BECAUSE
HE DEDICATED HIS BOOK TO MANDELA AND ANGELA DAVIS
From Democracy
Now
In California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger's
written response to Stanley Tookie Williams"
clemency appeal, Schwarzenegger writes: "The
dedication of Williams' book "Life in Prison" casts
significant doubt on his personal redemption.
This book was published in 1998, several years
after Williams' claimed redemptive experience.
Specifically, the book is dedicated to 'Nelson
Mandela, Angela Davis, Malcolm X, Assata Shakur,
Geronimo Ji Jaga Pratt, Ramona Africa, John Africa,
Leonard Peltier, Dhoruba Al-Mujahid, George Jackson,
Mumia Abu-Jamal, and the countless other men, women,
and youths who have to endure the hellish oppression
of living behind bars.'
The mix of individuals on this list is curious.
Most have violent pasts and some have been convicted
of committing heinous murders, including the killing
of law enforcement."
Schwarzenegger goes on to particularly single out
the inclusion of George Jackson on this list. George
Jackson, the jailed Black Panther member gunned down
by prison guards at San Quentin in 1971. Angela
Davis stood trial and was acquitted for taking part
in a courtroom raid that sought Jackson's release.
Angela Davis, a longtime prison activist and
professor at the University of California, Santa
Cruz. She is the author of several books including
"Are Prisons Obsolete?" and "Women, Race and Class".
Her latest book is titled "Abolition Democracy:
Prisons, Democracy, and Empire." She was at San
Quentin State Prison last night.
AMY GOODMAN: We turn now to Angela Davis,
longtime prison activist, professor, University of
California, Santa Cruz, author of a number of books,
including Are Prisons Obsolete?, Women, Race and
Class, and her latest is Abolition Democracy:
Prisons, Democracy and Empire. Angela, you were
outside the death chamber. You were outside the San
Quentin prison last night into the morning. Can you
talk about your response to the execution and to
what was happening outside?
ANGELA DAVIS: Well, of course, it was a very sad
moment. But for thousands of people who gathered
there, dedicated themselves to keeping Tookie
Williams's spirit alive. I must say, I have attended
other vigils; this is the largest vigil I have ever
seen. I'm not sure exactly how many people were
there, but it seemed like thousands. During the last
portion of the protest and vigil, young people, in
this extremely moving gesture, read from Tookie
Williams's book, a young man, after young woman,
after young man, after young woman, gave very moving
renditions of the lessons that Tookie Williams has
left to us about the importance of nonviolence, the
importance of turning away from the gang life.
And as I stood there imaging what was happening
in the death chamber, it seemed to me that this
might very well be the beginning of something very
new. The campaign against the death penalty has been
-- while a powerful campaign, its participants have
been those who attend all of the vigils, a
relatively small number of people. There were last
night huge numbers of people, multigenerational, a
extremely diverse crowd and everyone was both very
sad and at the same time it seemed to me very
dedicated to continuing the campaign against capital
punishment, against injustices brought on by the
prison system, against racism, for peace, for
justice, for equality.
AMY GOODMAN: Angela Davis, I wanted to turn to an
excerpt from Governor Schwarzenegger's written
response to Tookie Williams's clemency appeal, when
he denied it. Schwarzenegger writes, quote, "The
dedication of Williams's book, Life in Prison, casts
significant doubt on his personal redemption.
This book was published in 1998, several years
after Williams claimed redemptive experience."
Schwarzenegger goes on to write, "Specifically the
book is dedicated to Nelson Mandela, Angela Davis,
Malcolm X, Assata Shakur, Geromino ji Jaga Pratt,
Ramona Africa, John Africa, Leonard Peltier, Dhoruba
al-Mujahid, George Jackson, Mumia Abu-Jamal, and the
countless other men, women and youths who have to
endure the hellish oppression of living behind bars."
Schwarzenegger goes on to say, "The mix of
individuals on this list is curious. Most have
violent pasts, and some have been convicted of
committing heinous murders, including the killing of
law enforcement."
Schwarzenegger goes on to particularly single out
the inclusion of George Jackson in Williams's
dedication, George Jackson, the jailed Black Panther
member gunned down by prison guards at San Quentin
in 1971. Angela Davis, you stood trial and were
acquitted of taking part in a courtroom raid that
sought Jackson's release. Can you respond to this
part of Schwarzenegger's denial of Williams's
clemency appeal?
ANGELA DAVIS: Well, it seems to me that we saw a
very intentional politicization of this process,
namely the equation of what Schwarzenegger would
call lawlessness and criminality with radical
political activism. It is revealing, it seems to me,
that every single name he evoked by quoting the
dedication from Tookie's autobiography, every single
name is the name of a person of color, a black
person or a Native person, and of course we have
Nelson Mandela, who is a global hero, who represents
to us the determination to dismantle racism and
sexism and economic exploitation.
It is very frightening to me that Schwarzenegger
would make such a statement, particularly in light
of the assault on people's rights associated with
the PATRIOT Act. This feels like an even more
intense kind of McCarthyism that's happening here,
and it was particularly ironic that he said that
Williams is not reformed and he still sees violence
and lawlessness as legitimate, as what he called a
legitimate means to address societal problems. This
is ironic, since Stanley Tookie Williams has
publicly embraced nonviolence, and as I said this
evening, when I spoke at the rally, this execution
is the most outrageous example of using violence, of
using state violence as a legitimate means of
addressing social problems.
AMY GOODMAN: What about the issue that
Schwarzenegger raised, and others, that Stanley
Tookie Williams, if he was truly engaged in
redemption, would ask for forgiveness, admit his
crime and ask for forgiveness?
ANGELA DAVIS: Well, Stanley Tookie Williams did
repeatedly express remorse for all of the terrible
things he admitted he had done in his youth. At the
same time, he indicated that, time and time again,
that he was not guilty of the particular crimes with
which he was charged. It would have actually been
easy for him to admit guilt, even though he is
innocent, it would have been very easy for him to
admit guilt, apologize for the purpose of
guaranteeing that he might receive clemency from
Governor Schwarzenegger, but he maintained his
innocence until the very end.
And, of course, there has been little discussion
about the actual evidence in the trial. There's been
little discussion of the witnesses who testified
against him, the jailhouse informant, for example,
because there was no DNA, or what they call factual
evidence in the case, and this is what I think is
quite dangerous about the assumption that the only
way innocence can be demonstrated is through DNA. I
would say parenthetically that I happened to catch
on CNN an interview with a man who had been released
from death row in Illinois based on DNA evidence,
and he told a CNN reporter that he believes that
Tookie Williams should be executed, because there
was no actual innocence, there was no factual
evidence of his innocence. This is very frightening
to me, because it means that the science, the so-called
scientific production of innocence can, as a matter
of fact, boomerang against all of those who are not
able to mobilize such evidence. And it might
boomerang against the notion that we need to abolish
the death penalty because it is wrong. No one,
regardless of guilt or innocence, should be put to
death by the state during this day and age.
AMY GOODMAN: Angela Davis, I want to thank you
very much for being with us, and a safe trip to
Paris. What words will you bring to the conferences
you speak at in France?
ANGELA DAVIS: Words I will bring will emphasize
the importance of generating stronger global
solidarity. There is widespread sentiment against
the death penalty in France, of course throughout
Europe, and increasingly in other parts of the world,
as well. I should point out that the Cote d’Ivoire
just recently abolished the death penalty. Senegal
just recently abolished the death penalty. So I will
bring a message of hope, that the State of
California may have extinguished the life of Stanley
Tookie Williams, but the State has not managed to
extinguish the hope for a better world.
AMY GOODMAN: Angela Davis, thank you very much
for being with us, professor, University of
California, Santa Cruz. Her latest book is Abolition
Democracy: Prisons, Democracy, and Empire.